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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:12:44 -
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So long as the Isboxer folk who are going to rage quit with their zilion accounts are the same folk who are going to rage quit with their zillion Carrier accounts because they can no longer pretty much insta hot-drop cruisers on the other side of the universe, Eve will not see much of a net loss of players.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:18:53 -
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Jedediah Arndtz wrote:Balder Verdandi wrote:
We're grown ups, we can handle it.
What? We're adults? SINCE WHEN? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME?!?!
Because you are too young to handle it 
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.26 10:54:29 -
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It has become very fashionable for folk to threaten to rage quit with their zillion accounts with each change CCP make to the game.
I only have one account, am I doing it wrong?
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:16:35 -
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To all those who intend to 'bend' the rules regarding ISboxer
It is good to see that gambling has been taken to a new level: my ability to circumvent the rules, bets that CCP will not be able to tell and perma ban my zillion accounts.
High stakes indeed.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:30:16 -
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CCP Random wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:To all those who intend to 'bend' the rules regarding ISboxer
It is good to see that gambling has been taken to a new level: my ability to circumvent the rules, bets that CCP will not be able to tell and perma ban my zillion accounts.
High stakes indeed. I recommend to rethink this approach. It is detectable for us.
Just for clarity, I would not recognize an ISboxer if I fell over one.
My post was aimed at the many folk who have posted saying that they intend to get around the new rules.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.26 16:52:50 -
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Elisha Habah wrote:[quote=Nolak Ataru]For everyone claiming "ISBoxing incursions" and "ISBoxing anoms" is dead..... nah it isn't. Since we can still use ISBoxer's VideoFX and DXNothing to rearrange our screens, it may take us a little longer to lock each target, but not by much. Totally agree..... People have no clue. As stated previously we only use mouse repeat for about 10% of the time.....[/quote
In which case, the ISboxers seem to have no grounds for complaining about the new CCP rules?
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.27 08:50:57 -
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Doc Fury wrote:This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb.
Nice reference to the Falklands War.
So, +1 from me good sir.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:59:50 -
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I do not use ISboxer, but I believe many ISboxers can now hear The Fat Lady Singing.
As ever when CCP make a change, most will not care, some will rage quit, some will threaten to rage quit, (it influnened and got CCP to mitiigate the proposed Jump Changes) some will rage quit and some will adapt.
The game will continue.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:48:46 -
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BillyB0b wrote:It's still not clear to me what things are allowed ... Using software to broadcast a single keypress to several clients is now not allowed Having separate keys to send commands to several clients, and pressing them together with a 'hardware mod' (such as a big stick) is also now not allowed
but If I have one key to do a thing on one client, and another key to do something on another client - can I press both these keys at the same time with my hands (and if so, do they have to be pressed with separate hands or fingers?)
I can easily press a pair of keys together reliably 100 times out of 100, so I don't see how CCP would distinguish this from either broadcasting one keypress to two clients, or using a hardware mod to press two keys with one action.
Are we allowed to press more than one key* at a time in eve now? And if so how will we avoid being suspected of breaking the new rules while doing this?
[*where each key has a distinct effect in the eve universe]
It seems to me that we can still do most of the same things as before (a little less conveniently) while not breaking the new rules
Try it after January 15 next year and if CCP have a problem with it, they will let you know.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.30 18:13:29 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:Cervix Thumper wrote:If demand was greater than supply there would be none on the market. Only if you think of PLEX as having a limited number, or that players "must" buy it instead of using a credit card or unsubbing for a month or so. Remiel Pollard wrote:if 160 tornado guns can be fired with one button push, by one player who can't be arsed making friends to fly 19 tornados with him in the multiplayer game, then I do have a problem with that. Whether or not I can adapt to it is unrelated to whether or not I like it. Again you participate in some strange form of victim blaming and circular logic, but instead of blaming victims of actual violence you've somehow managed to convince yourself that CCP is Always Right (Incarna, anyone?) and that any change they do Must Be Right because CCP is Always Right, and that if the playerbase objects to a change they Must Be Wrong. CCP is actively limiting our playstyle via the worst way possible. If people have a problem with ISBoxer and the way it's being used right now, (and I've seen more complaints and people quitting because of the local CODE monkeys than a 10-man skiff fleet) then what's to say CCP won't start limiting accounts active in the future? CCP is attempting to appease a vocal minority by implementing a massive change, and whenever a company listens to the vocal minority instead of attempting to get a poll from a greater majority of the playerbase and act upon it, bad things happen.
More or less killing off ISboxer is a good thing, so I support CCP on this.
If CCP did not more or less kill ISboxer they would be in the wrong.
It is not a question of supporting CCP because they are CCP, but a question of doing the right thing by the game in a holistic sense.
In this instance, CCP are doing the right thing.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.30 18:45:57 -
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Cervix Thumper wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
More or less killing off ISboxer is a good thing, so I support CCP on this.
If CCP did not more or less kill ISboxer they would be in the wrong.
It is not a question of supporting CCP because they are CCP, but a question of doing the right thing by the game in a holistic sense.
In this instance, CCP are doing the right thing.
In your opinion and the opinion of several others but not in mine and several others. Unless there is a poll taken we won't know what the majority think. And the majority are not reading this thread nor are involved in the forums. So it is a moot point. Opinion vs opinion doesn't solve anything. We have don't have like it, as said before adapt or move on. Some are choosing to move on some are choosing to adapt. We'll suss it out when the time comes.
Be careful what you wish for...
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.11.30 22:35:07 -
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This whole sorry sage is quite confusing.
On the one hand, some ISboxers are going to rage quit because the sky is falling in.
On the other hand, some ISboxers seem to think that the new rules will have little impact.
Maybe they should confer and present a coherent case in defence of ISboxer to CCP.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.01 07:58:12 -
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Buldra wrote:Let me explain how its going to be. From the 1st January, i'm going to be unemployed with about 10 of my previous friends. However, i'm not going to go down without a fight, so in order for me to keep my subs running i'm going to need ISk and your lovely fat haulers and freighters will have to bear the brunt of that. I hope thats ok with you, as I will not be f*ing up your economy too much. I would actually enjoy the game again, as opposed to shooting stupid rats, I will have a lots of fan mail, i'm sure. There are always consequences to actions, and this is going to be mine. Ganking in high sec is legit. I will need 3-6 accounts and i will manually fly all of them, no need for Isboxer either. I'm looking forward to your fan mail and thanks for freeing me from the shackles of incursions, it was getting rather tedious running those bloody things anyhow.... PS. I'm an alt, so see you in Hek, Uitander, Bei Deltole, Aufay, Balle or any 05, 06 near you from the 2nd of JAN 2015  Udema is cesspool so i wouldn't go there 
Good for you!
I wish you every success in your endeavours.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.03 08:42:42 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:You are making a good argument to ban ISBoxer entirely Lucas. That might be the case. And if they did, it would at least have an actual impact on what the whiners are whining about. As it stands the change is pointless because the impact will be minimal. Considering I don't use ISBoxer generally, I'm not particularly invested in it and don't really care if it goes. What I care about is knee-jerk changes with no gameplay value being added to appease whining carebears for a week until they realise it didn't change much. People playing with ISBoxer are generally going to be better at the game than a solo carebear whining in an ice belt. Even if all tools were completely banned they would still be at the bottom of the most peasant level income.
So, an ISboxer mining ice is a 'player' but the solo ice miner next to him is a 'whining carebear'?
One of my favourite things about the Eve forums is the casual use of the supposed insult' 'carebear' to descibe anyone who holds a contrary view.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.03 09:18:36 -
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Dear Lucas, I was a happy chap when my Dominix had a 10% drone tracking bonus, but those whinging carebears moaned and cried to CCP and got the tracking bonus nerfed.
So I can see where you are coming from with this.
With regard to ISboxer, I would be pleased if everyone in the game (except me of course) used ISboxer all the time to mine so that my ships became dirt cheap.
I am broadly opposed to ISboxer because being ganked by 10 players seems 'right' being ganked by on player controlling X ships with one key press just seems wrong to me.
My favourite ISbox defence thus far is, 'but it took me ages to set up, so I should be allowed to continue to use it as currently allowed'
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.03 20:55:28 -
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Lucas et al, the "fight" is over, you need to come to terms with it.
CCP have decided on the new rules regarding things like ISboxer, the only thing that might happen now is for some folk to see if they can 'circumvent' the new rules and risk a 30 day, then permanent ban.
Those who suffer a permanent ban can then join the likes of Erotica 1, wailing in the wind about how mean CCP are their (former) players.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.03 22:11:21 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Lucas et al, the "fight" is over, you need to come to terms with it. CCP have decided on the new rules regarding things like ISboxer, the only thing that might happen now is for some folk to see if they can 'circumvent' the new rules and risk a 30 day, then permanent ban. Those who suffer a permanent ban can then join the likes of Erotica 1, wailing in the wind about how mean CCP are their (former) players. Jesus you sound like the journalists who keep spouting that "Gaming is Dead" crap. If CCP wanted to make this announcement with no room for discussion they could have made this thread locked on the first post and not allow for discussion. I personally love how you attempt to dismiss the very idea that CCP listens to the userbase, especially after such things as the bombers thread where CCP backpedaled on the bombers decloaking each other nerf. Your attempt to censor the userbase is silly. Please never post again unless you're willing to let the other side have a reasonable discussion.
My, you sound hurt, has CCP kicked you in the ISboxer?
To take your point on though, I have said before that all that remains is for hose opposed to the changes to moan (make their point loudly and often in the forums) in the hope that CCP will ameliorate the changes as they did with under pressure the Jump Nerf proposals.
Have you ever considered that CCP may have made these proposals due to concern from non ISboxer players?
Thought not 
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:49:49 -
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Dear Lucas, I do not mean this to sound as insulting as it may appear, but given how much you post lately, are you a Tippia alt?
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.12 16:14:31 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Uh, no. And I often post this much. Where have you been? I have my own fan club.
Stop staring in the mirror, it will really cut your fan club numbers down 
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.20 11:11:12 -
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Tis thread now reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TobFGg7jTmg
Time to move on folks
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.24 22:45:34 -
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Lucas, CCP have no desire to ban anybody, only to curb a small part of ISboxer gameplay.
Some in this thread have stated that the incoming limit to a small part of ISboxing will have no real impact.
Much ado about nothing methinks.
Unless...
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2014.12.25 07:49:17 -
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Lucas, you make a lot of assumptions based on little, if no evidence.
Of course some of what you say makes sense, it is blindingly obvious that CCP do ban players just because they can - a handful of GMs not looking into it quite enough - It is not as if CCP are running a business and want more players to subscribe so that they make more money, how dumb would that be?
I see that you use the usual 'carebear' insult to disparage anyone who does not conform you your way of thinking. If, say, I did use ISboxer to multi-mine to pay for my null-sec pvp gameplay, I am just as likely to complain about my 'competitors' as any so called hi-sec carebear, to remove the competition.
The part where you say that if no one knew about ISboxing is well below your usual standard of contrarian views. It is like saying that if nobody knew about botting or hacking the game, no one would complain. I have never met a botter or hacker, but, and I am going to be honest with you, I still disaprove of them because of, 'the idea of unfairness'
If, as ISboxers say, this change will have little impact on them, whay are so many of them threatening to rage quit with and take their zillion alts with them?
Oh, real life bit, I hope you have a really enjoyable Christmas holiday.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2015.01.01 19:50:49 -
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Well, did the sky fall in?
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2015.01.03 11:30:39 -
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Nolak Ataru said '...I have never gibbeerd or acted hysterical...'
He also said '...and proven to CCP that you are the lunatics...'
On a more serious note, I did say before that the whole thing seems to be much ado about nothing.
So either the limited changes CCP have made to the rules governing the use of ISboxer have not really impacted on the play-style of ISboxers, or they have, in which case CCP probably did the right thing.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2015.01.03 12:03:01 -
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Nolak Ataru wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Nolak Ataru said '...I have never gibbeerd or acted hysterical...' He also said '...and proven to CCP that you are the lunatics...' On a more serious note, I did say before that the whole thing seems to be much ado about nothing. So either the limited changes CCP have made to the rules governing the use of ISboxer have not really impacted on the play-style of ISboxers, or they have, in which case CCP probably did the right thing. Still don't see where I ranted and raved about "the Man is keepin me down" (very heavily paraphrased with the help of two screwdrivers). I've admitted that this will stop the HQ solo runners. I'll also admit it will stop the 50-man bombing runs from the larger fleets. But anyone who's dedicated enough will and has found a way to continue multiboxing. Scroll wheel down bound to F1, scroll wheel up bound to left click, and ta-da. If CCP wanted to do the right thing, they would've balanced the game instead of immediately pulling out the banhammer.
On a purely personal level, as I have said before, I want everybody and their alts to ISbox very large mining fleets to keep down the costs of the raw materials I need for my production of T1 rigs etc.
This means that on a personal level, I am not for, or against ISboxing in terms of whether or not it is bad or good for the game as a whole.
I leave that for CCP to decide.
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Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2015.01.26 20:46:55 -
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I do not know if I am impressed or depressed that this thread is still going.
I guess everybody has a right to fight their corner.
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